Most manuals stop at 147 grains, though Hodgdon and Vihtavuori have data for 150 grain bullets. Ryan and Dianna continue to not only compete, but train and film all over the country. Although such an edge clearly exists, its significance cannot be quantified". I'm thinken a 124 cast over 4.0 of titegroup has anyone tried that. Only time I used TG in 9mm it was 4.5grs. "Given adequate penetration, a larger diameter bullet will have an edge in wounding effectiveness. Berry's RN plated, 4.0gr Titegroup 1.143" OAL No issues running in STI Spartan, Glock 26,19,17 & 34 or my 9mm AR I put together with a NES YHM lower. Starting at mid range up to max. His last three years of service were spent at the 1st Marine Division Scout Sniper School as the Primary Marksmanship Instructor. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! After looking at my previous set ups, the chrono was likely at about 7 feet, not 5. All bullets were taper crimped as a separate step in the handloading . Powder Bul Weight C.O.L. Just dirty as we ever seen and HOT. In her off time, Regina writes for many publications in both print and digital mediums, trains other shooters, and mentors several up-and-coming female competitors in the precision rifle discipline. This made me wonder if it is a velocity issue, or a powder charge below 3.7gr issue since all these loads are for the same bullets. Loading is always at your own risk. THR Group Project - PISTOL - Advanced Reloading Concepts and Discussions. I looked at 9mm load data for 115, 124, 147gr and the range for Titegroup is, well, tight. Zach has several friends that are getting into reloading shotshells because of Zachs reloads. The Wester #1 and Sierra #7 Manuals have 9mm +P data. What's the difference between the Berry's plated bullets and FMJ? Its makes your gun a somewhat heat machine. ABOUT CHAD: Chad is a world champion elk caller and two-time Eastern US Elk Calling Champion. As long as they cycle fine in your guns, you should be good to go. Hailing from the Kansas City-area, Jaclyn is a rifle shooter specializing in precision rifle shooting. I consider the type of bullet. The snubnosed .38 and .45 ACP handloads also turned in good results. Unique - 4.6 gn - 1100 fps. . TiteGroup is too fast burning to be a good universal powder. Each week the Schearer family will hunt with a variety of weapons from archery, muzzleloader and shotgun to centerfire rifles and will not only focus on the hunt, but will be filled with educational tips to make the viewers better sportsmen and sportswomen. He is a four-time World Champion, 13-time National Champion, the only Triple Crown winner in Action Shooting Sports and has 600+ (and counting) local and regional shooting competitions. Titegroup is a fantastic powder for 9mm and .45ACP. Snake River PRS club has become his pride and joy with a dedication to growing the sport by recruiting and supporting new and youth shooters. Through shooting, Zach has met many people in the shooting community. I can't seem to find the load data for 115gr FMJ w/Titegroup powder online or in the Lyman 49th manual. Those who would emasculate Americans by denying them the right to bear arms are guilty of aiding and abetting evil when it strikes. Depending upon the cartridge overall length. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. With velocities at 1046 to 1119. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Current Oregon State Police Background Check Queue Status As Countdown To Measure 114 Vote Approaches. The bullets I have available are 124gr/125gr plated and jacketed and 147gr plated. Gaige Grosskreutz -- The Felon Shot By Kyle Rittenhouse. At first I was a little leery when I could not find the exact bullet I wanted to use with the powder I was using. I try to use a longer than suggested OAL just help with pressures etc. 3 grains? In 1999, George opened GA Precision after apprenticing with three gunsmiths. 1.100" Starting Load Grains 3.9 Nuts accurate. Sorry for posting so many times in a row but I just got some new information. Brian spent three years in Spokane as a Zag until his baseball career was cut short by a tragic plane accident that took the lives of his parents and younger sister. Quickly he was attending weekly, monthly, and annual shoots, which included Nebraska state, USAYESS, and many more. Residing in Cheney Washington, Jake Vibbert owns JC Steel targets Inc. and is a strong competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and the National Rifle League. #1 As a beginner reloader, I'm looking for Titegroup load data for 9mm for 115 grains FMJ. Because it's a fast powder well suited to moderate-to-light recoil/PF loads, and because it is. My guess is 900 FPS jacketed load is getting close to not being able to guarantee the bullet always leaving the barrel, where a 1000 FPS load is more certain. I`m using 3.8 gr for the plated, and 4.2 gr for the JHP. He was trained as an armorer in the US Army, where he spent six years as a Military Police Investigator. Jake travels the country shooting, directing precision rifle matches, and teaching precision rifle classes. When we are sold out, we are sold out. A couple months later, Zach shot USAYESS competition in Grand Island. You can post now and register later. Its popularity soared after World War II, and the U.S. military adopted the 9x19mm as its service pistol round in 1985. Brian now competes in both the PRS and NRL Pro series. I have found charge weights that fall in the allowable range. Phillip has attended all follow-on formal Scout Sniper courses, having graduated with honors and recognized as High Shooter from all. We recommend that you use published lead load data from reputable sources. Buy Sport Pistol or N320 instead. Wyatt has won numerous elk calling competitions at the ISE Best of the West Elk Calling Competition. Ryan has volunteered for HAVA and Freedom Hunters events getting wounded vets into competition and/or hunting. Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. I plan on using Titegroup since I have it for my 45ACP. Some take the caution a little farther than needed but really nothing wrong with that. He volunteers as an alter sever at Mass on Sunday at church and is a member in the Civilian Airpatrol Program. I used 4.5 grains of Titegroup with a 115 grain Berry's FMJ bullet and an OAL of 1.125 to 1.130. Velocities taken at ~4-5 feet from barrel. May 7, 2012 9mm 124 gr FMJ 1.15" COL 4.3 gr Titegroup (a little hot) A longtime resident of Virginia, Todd competes in over 16 different shooting disciplines (to include USPSA, 3-Gun, Steel Challenge, IDPA, Olympic Rapid Fire, Shotgun Shooting Sports). 6 grains? Lee, Lyman, Hodgdon, Hornady, all sorts of manuals have data. 9 mm Luger - Published Manufacturer Loading Data. This year my NRL Hunter has been with H-1000 and its incredible! Phillip is a 10-year Marine Corps veteran having served his whole career in the Scout Sniper community. Starting Load Grains 4.9 Velocity (ft/s) 1,124 Pressure 28,800 PSI Maximum Load Grains 5.4 Velocity (ft/s) 1,209 Pressure 33,800 PSI Barrel Length: 4" Case: Winchester Primer: CCI 500, Small Pistol Trim Length: .750" Twist: 1:10" 115 GR. A forum community dedicated to all 1911 firearm owners and enthusiasts. Hodgdon.com says 3.9-4.3gr for LRN. For very low charge weights the opening is not big enough to constantly fill the volume resulting in very erratic metering. I have tried this load out of my G34 and I am getting around 140PF to nearly 150PF. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Soon, Zach was shooting skeet and fell in love with the sport. Ryan earned a Bachelors of Science in Chemistry and Plastics Engineering as well as a Masters of Science in Engineering Technologies. Still using same load years later and it's a good round. They're mostly for use in an M11/9 submachinegun but they work fine in a S&W Shield also. He has over 35 years experience in shooting, with approximately 50 tons of projectiles downrange with the assistance of Hodgdon Powder. In addition to shooting, Zach plays plays baseball, basketball, football, and track & field. Makes an impression on you. The game hooked me, but I fell in love with the people! Since returning to competition on 2009, Dianna has earned a plethora of High Lady wins, including the 2013 and 2016 USPSA Ladies Open National Championship. Probably saved me some money. I dont remember my powder charger right off the top of my head. I'm hoping this data may help some others that are looking for some data with Titegroup powder. 10-12 ft according to my chronos instructions inorder to prevent getting false readings due to the muzzle blast. All but 2-3 of those are with handloadedammo. I am using CBI pistol powder. That will allow you to get a finer-tuned powder drop. My goal was to find a load that worked well is all my 9MMs with differing barrel lengths, rifling, etc. In my time I have worked on improving myself to take it as high as I can. Started at 3.8 but it would not cycle my guns correctly so had to up it. Titegroup 3.4grs 968 FPS G34 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 668 Scottsdale, AZ Posted January 28, 2018 Notes 2: 3.5grs Tite Group Distance to Chrono (FT): 5.00 Ballistic Coefficient: 0.212 Bullet Weight (gr): 147.00 Temp: N/A F BP: N/A inHg Altitude: 0.00 # FPS FT-LBS PF 10 957 298.99 140.68 9 947 292.77 139.21 8 959 300.24 140.97 Max charge was 4.8 grains, so these should be fine. 2.8 gr. All I had was word of mouth and books. Paste as plain text instead, Excellent pistol powder for accuracy and cowboy action shooting. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. For instance I use Montana Gold hollow points and consider them to be pretty much the same as Speer/Hornady. On 1/7/2020 at 8:30 PM, looking4reloadingdeals said. You accidentally load this into a rifle, or a larger pistol cartridge, its super dangerous. I used 4.5 grains of Titegroup with a 115 grain Berry's FMJ bullet and an OAL of 1.125 to 1.130. That is all the negatives about it, it shoots just fine, its very economical and its just fine with accuracy. All of them are asking their parents for shotshell presses now. 1 - 4 of 4 Posts. For a newb, you are treading on very thin ice & IMO, haven't enough exp to determine if your load is "fine". Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Posted by Donald H Nolen on Sep 26th 2022. Doubling that will come close to including practice rounds spent at his one-of-a-kind shooting range he built on the edge of the Snake River Canyon. I was ordering my daughter an archery set and decided to order a Lee classic loader in 9mm. We recommend upgrading your current browser or. All calculations were done by hand using formulas, please let me know if anything seems off. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. A licensed Montana Professional Outfitter and Guide freelance writer, his articles and photographs have been featured in magazines including Outdoor Life, American Hunter, American Rifleman, Field and Stream. Cases were mixed brands of commercial brass and not sorted by maker. Great powder, would recommend it to anyone shooting & reloading. Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. /wp-content/uploads/2016/08/HODGDON_LOGO_DARK.png, https://hodgdon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/titegroup_1_lb.jpg. I have been trying to get a 9mm 124gr RN load to reach 1200fps. In fact, Jake has compiled more wins than any other Shooter in the United States at national level Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League events during that span. The .357 Sig handloads could have been loaded even hotter. It's for practice, not for competition. looking4reloadingdeals We believe the 2nd Amendment is best defended through grass-roots organization, education, and advocacy centered around individual gun owners. Keyboards and steering wheels bring out the absolute worst in people. My brother gave me some Titegroup. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I ended up finding data for it on the instructions for the powder measure. Runs 100% reliable in everything, including 9mm AR and Beretta CX4 Storm. He still serves the NKCPD as a Range Officer volunteer today. Hardware Reloading 9mm load for 124gr with Titegroup G-Lo Jan 11, 2015 G-Lo Rating - 100% 8 0 0 Joined Jul 22, 2012 Messages 588 Likes 38 Jan 11, 2015 #1/18 Hey all- I wanted to ask you guys what have you liked for 9mm 124gr plated bullets using Titegroup. Me thinks not, but I could be wrong. OAL is about 1.139 give or take. I'm a self confessed TG whore but 4.5 is a little warm for my liking I stay at the 4.3 range for a 115g FMJ. As with any load data posted on the internet, please start testing low and work your way up. Need to be careful with plated bullets because not all are created equal. When you load this stuff, you better be focused on what you are doing, its not recommended for anyone that loads with many powders around, constantlys swapping powders. These loads were tested using my Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph Premium Kit. A plated bullet (Berry's, Rainier Ballistics) falls between the two. Thanks guys. The terrain in Southern Idaho often requires a hunter to be able to take shots at 400 yards and well beyond. Went out and tested 4 more loads today (2 of the same load) and got extremely similar results. I didn't think 4.5 grains was a max load either, because on the Titegroup container it says that for 115gr Speer GDHP max load is 4.8 gr. The Lee second edition manual shows 115gr jacketed has 4.8gr max at 1.125 oal for 1158fps. I use 3.5g Titegroup under a 147g JHP. Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound. I tried to make it "view only", if for some reason it does not come across that way please don't edit the document and let me know so I can adjust it. is 1.150" with Hornandy bullets. I think someone posted that very information just yesterday. There have been some top 10 ELR finishes as well but I dont remember the specifics. Dianna currently competes in the role of Captain for Team Benelli. This is a good consistent and uniform powder, reloads easy and accurate. You can find Ryan on Shooting Gallery on The Outdoor Channel, and Realtree.com. Hmmm, I use the .40 cavity and get pretty consistent 4.5gn drops with Titegroup. An avid outdoorsman, he enjoys hunting and fishing with his family and mentoring youth through his ministry service. . Skip this one, you can do better. FYI, when you think about it..even the amount of crimp can/will/could affect things. containers. Make an introduction to Jake and youll instantly receive a big grin and firm handshake. I use 4.5 gns with Federal primers loaded to an OAL of 1.130. I am really enjoying reloading 45 ACP on my Lee classic loader. Be sure to enter theNES/MFS March Giveaway ***Taurus G3c***. So filling up half way looks normal. Todd is also a sought-after firearms instructor for military, law enforcement, and competitive shooters around the world. In 2015, Ryan and Dianna traveled to over 36 events across the world, including Italy and New Zealand. (3.2-3.6g from the Hodgdon website). I didn't think I was moving that fast, I just didn't know that I couldn't use FMJ data for the Berry's bullets. and 8 lb. Panel recommends more gun restrictions to lower military suicides, 12ga progressive reloader Ponsness Warren, (250) Hornady XTP 45 Cal 300gr Projectiles, Vintage Bushnell ScopeChief 22LR 4x scope. My M&P and G34 love the 115 and 124s, but the 147s won't group for crap in either gun with any load and I took it up to 3.9 which is pretty hot. Anything between 3.6 and 4.0 should work fine. Notes: Chronograph figures are for five rounds taken with the start screen at approximately 6 feet. This section shows you A LOT of information about 9 MM powders and how they compete against each other using the same brass, same bullet, same OAL, same primer, same gun, same day, same conditions..the only thing that is different is the powder. You are using an out of date browser which is likely incompatible with our website. Precision is making and looks forward to the future of creating the best professional custom rifles on the market. So I looked up the Titegroup load data and The 115 grain 9mm load data for LRN is only .5 grains less than the 230 grain 45ACP LRN. You are using an out of date browser. Every match Ive been to that chronoshas the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. No Charges? It can be very dangerous because its so fast burning. Used for my 9mm loads mostly. I use a Lee turret with the AutoDisk, and I'm finding that one cavity is at or lower than the recommended min charge, and the next cavity up is at or higher than the recommended max charge. I have looked at the factroy specs but I was looking for some input on loads that others use. Every match Ive been to that chronic has the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp, https://fsreloading.com/lee-precision-perfect-powder-measure-90058.html, Firearms News and Firearms related political news. and seated them to 1.150" as best as I recall. In cases like this 9mm I would use the start data for the next heavier slug if that was there. Shooting steel plates or need to shoot fast? I dont think i would worry about it. Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type Primer Notes; Accurate - Nitro 100 NF: 115 gr. Generally speaking, ~3.3 grains of Titegroup using a 147 grain bullet is about as vanilla of a competition load as it gets. Today, it is a popular military and law enforcement handgun cartridge. Would the hp OAL be the same as that of the RN? I have been using 3.3gr Titegroup under 147fmj at 1.15 coal. Posted by David Blankenship on Aug 12th 2022. This is a new powder to me and I understand that it is a fast burn powder. Tested 3.6-4.0 gr titegroup with berry's RN 124, col 1.150. Makes 900fps out of my G17. Display as a link instead, Phillip Velayo currently serves as Gunwerks Long Range University Lead Instructor. C.O.A.L. I am doing 3.7gr of Titegroup 124gr bullet. I have the Hornady manual, but nothing about Titegroup in the manual for 9mm. RN for about 10 years with excellent results in my Glocks and STI pistols. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! Better like this than some of the disasters I've seen where someone basically takes a wild guess at something. Starting load is 4.5gr for 1135fps. Sign up to get updates and access to exclusive promotions. So you are saying you found data specificly for Berry's plated & TG? 1.100 in. Dianna Muller earned a Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice/Psychology from University of Central Missouri and retired from the Tulsa Police Department after 22 years of service.