Why to constant trashing of the Mets when both teams won 101 games. As for real estate, go check the difference. They are the agents that rep him. If thats the case, then the Braves just got Spencers first 5 seasons for, check this, 15 million. Harper sold and sells lots of tickets etc and great pr. And Gerrit Cole with the Angels. Frieds totals so far are $3.5M, $6.85M, and a potential $12.2M, which is $22.5M in arbitration through three passes at this point. The problem is they still have the potential to either end up in the bleachers or the nose-bleed sections, or even if they get great seats behind homeplate, they are still losing nearly 30% on the gamble. Source: USA TODAY Sports Back to the previous page Player Strider, Spencer Team Atlanta Position RHP. He will earn $1 million per season in 2023 and 2024, $4 million in 2025, $20 million in 2026, and $22 million per season in 2027-2028. Thats only free agent contracts. Matt Harvey had a higher ERA and lower K/9 and higher BB/9 in his first season. Spencer Strider only appeared in one game for the Braves last season and was not very well-known around the league. His third career outing was his most dominant at the Major League level as Strider's strikeouts came on fastballs clocked at 99.2, 100.3, 100.3, 99.8 and 99.8 mph. You are comparing Harveys call up as a full season is disingenuous. Spencer Strider +1100 Aaron Nola +1200 Max Fried +1200 Zac Gallen +1600 Zack Wheeler +1600 Julio Urias +2000 Joe Musgrove +2000 Brandon Woodruff +2000 Yu Darvish +2200 Logan Webb +3000 Kyle Wright . If they succeed in signing both Swanson and Fried, theres virtually no path to avoiding the luxury tax. Strider will qualify for Super Two. Since 2020 was a short season lets take the last 4 seasons. If youre Swanson, coming off this type of 2021-22 performance, why would you sign for any less than Trevor Story and Javier Baez received last winter ($140MM over six years)? If you dont catch it and cancel the extra comments before the edit button expires, it looks like youve repeated the same post. I mean, were talking about MLB thats chosen to segregate their most loyal fans by continuing blacking-out games and fracturing the TV market with money-grab, inane exclusive streaming deals (i.e. Sorry for the confusion. Spencer Strider is one of the best young pitchers in the Atlanta Braves organization. Injuries are 75% covered by insurance He definitely cant play 2B, and doubt hes any better at SS. CBA has no affect on arb money because the union wouldnt let a segment of their members benefit in terms of general contract negotiations. Everything is an option, quite honestly, Snitker said. Revenue in baseball is going up and salaries will also. Being represented by Frontline he got himself a nice contract plus doesnt have to worry about fleas & ticks, Repd by Frontline and now hes got Bravecto. The standard Super Two pay scale for him for his remaining years is: $0.7M (league minimum) Then, they would have to compete against the Houston Astros, New York Yankees, Cleveland Guardians or Seattle Mariners. Its all Monopoly money past a certain point and this core has dynasty potential. Albies was banged up this year but his $35M contract was earned in basically a year and a half. " . If his contact rate and barrel rate drops a little, his strikeout total will skyrocket even higher and his homeruns will fall off a cliff. I disagree. Doesnt make it a bad deal for the team, either. And Patrick Corbin with the Yankees. Copyright 2000-2023 Sports Reference LLC. As a Mets fan, I love what the Braves are doing and their fans should be excited. Many of the projections I saw had the Braves winning the division. The Yankees have the fattest wallets, anywhere but NY wasnt really an option. But they know that by having a huge core of players, their total risk will decrease and one or two could be replaced with gem finds at trade deadlines like AA is known for. Hope you enjoyed this seasons episode of LOLMets Choketober and made the appropriate notation in whatever book you refer to in your user name, the book of hurt I assume. AA said as much in his interviews today when discussing Striders health, work habits, team fit, and overall excellence for his age. Figuring he sets records all along the way: $1M (2023) If you look at the Braves team what they have done extremely well is develop players. Use without license or authorization is expressly prohibited. Braves need to sign Fried. And as much as I like Acuna and Albies, the injuries have already taken a toll. There certainly wasnt a universal belief the Mets would win the division since the Mets only was 77 games the prior season. And because he will likely finish top 2 in the ROY balloting, he would have been credited with a full year of service time in 2022 even if the Braves had tried to Kris Bryant him. Not to sound too negative, since there are also positives in his hitting profile, but Id have concerns going too long term with him. Strikeouts have the highest correlation with statistical fall off. If his option is exercised, the deal will be worth $92 million over seven years. They lost Acuna and won a WS. Have the Braves not noticed how many of their young pitchers have fallen apart after 2-3 years over the last two decades? So what? Contact doesnt increase as bat speed wains, hand eye coordination deteriorates, and eye sight worsens. There are way too many moving pieces to just guarantee blowing past the luxury tax. The stuff I read in spring training had the Braves, Phillies and Marlins all ahead of the Mets who were 78-84 the year prior and spent money on a bunch of 30 some odd year olds. Love to see this for a team and their fan base, Win win for both sides. Striders the first pitcher in MLB history to strike out over 200 hitters (202 Ks) and give up less than 100 hits (86.) Winning always helps too. Players dont sign extensions to be traded. If the 2029 option is exercised, the deal will be worth $92 million. That earned him a six-year extension worth $75 million. Not a fan of it, but thats the way it works. Strider has been significantly better than Harvey so far. If they are playing in New York, they ask the team to pay their apartment rent or to finance the home they live in, they get extra money to offset the taxes. The Braves seem like they are making all these extensions so their front office can spend the next 4 winters in Bermuda instead of working. They may be used by those companies to build a profile of your interests and show you relevant adverts on other sites. Saying that strider pitched last year too as the focal point of your comparison is disingenuous. If his option is exercised, the deal will be worth $92 million over seven years. Dont see how it could be an issue. By RotoWire Staff. Striders dominance has positioned him as one of the two favorites for National League Rookie of the Year honors, as he and teammate Harris are widely viewed as the presumptive first- and second-place finishers in an extremely strong year for rookies (both in the NL and in MLB as a whole). Is your life so empty that you pore over comments in three week old articles in search of targets for your insults? Well, the rich smart teams. They are paying $44 million max for both years and its likely that a single season of a TOR starter in 5 years will cost close to that much. As of January 2022, 23% of starting pitchers in MLB and 26% of all pitchers have had TJ surgery. Javascript is required for the selection of a player. It does not credit a player with two years of service time if they start the season on the ML roster AND place top 2 in the ROY balloting. $1M (2024) Strider is going to bonuses left and right which wouldve added to his arb numbers if he went that route. Lets say you are going to a MLB game at your local stadium and for-the-sake-of-argument lets say there are only 4 seat choices: bleachers $15, nose-bleeds (2nd & 3rd deck) $40, between 1st and 3rd base behind the dugouts for $100, and a seat in a suite for $150. With the shift going away, how can anyone think Olsons production is going to go down is beyond me. He touched 101 early in the outing. Salary, Earnings Spencer Strider undoubtedly earns a substantial sum of money from his sole career in baseball. Howd that one play out? Strider, 24 later this month, will earn $1MM both in 2023 and 2024. Strider will make $1 million each of the next two seasons and $4 million in 2025. Name those Braves fans who felt that way. Jose Ramirez begs to disagree. If youre going to give out a big extension like this, you should wait until after hes played three years or at least two to make sure hes for real, especially if youre only getting one or two free agent years in exchange. He swings at any and everything trying to make contact. Cant see that happening. Lets say Strider goes to every All-Star game for the next 6 years, wins two Cy Young awards, finishes top 10 every other season, and avoids injury. The nicest condos in New York with less than half that sq. The Apple TV games are absolutely free to watch, no paid subscription required and no blackouts on the service itself! https://www.si.com/mlb/2022/03/11/mlb-collective-bargaining-agreement-details-rule-changes, Players who finish in the top two of Rookie of the Year voting will receive a full year of service time., It says a full year of service time. They are usually only set in response to actions made by you which amount to a request for services, such as setting your privacy preferences, logging in or filling in forms. 27. The only way this deal makes sense is if he becomes an inner-circle Hall-of-Fame pitcher who is the greatest pitcher of our generation. Spencer Strider was drafted by the Cleveland Indians in the 35th round of the 2017 MLB June Amateur Draft from Christian Academy of Knoxville (Knoxville, TN) and the Atlanta Braves in the 4th round of the 2020 MLB June Amateur Draft from Clemson University (Clemson, SC). And it becomes contagious in the clubhouse imo. AAs notoriously quiet when negotiating. The Braves are taking a risk on a pitcher who has 228 innings as a professional. Cashman still living off of the Coattails of the late 90s Yankee teams and Derek Jeter. Rather pay him instead of 330 or whatever to Cole. Buying out those arbitration years is key to these deals imo. I see little comparison between Strider and Harvey. 2026: $14-15M
SUMMARY 2022 Career WAR 3.7 3.7 W 11 12 L 5 5 ERA 2.67 2.69 G 31 33 GS 20 20 SV 0 0 IP 131.2 134.0 SO 202 202 WHIP 0.995 1.000 He would have been Arb 1 eligible after 2024. probably not. Considering the current model, I wouldnt bank on $20M coming from the final arb year and that leaves $27.5M/year for the two free agent seasons. I guess writers should just pick the Braves for ten years because they won a World Series with a 88 win season.
Spencer Strider rumors, news and stories [Top 20+ latest articles] Feb 22, 2023 at 3:11 pm ET 1 min read. Swanson only played 38 games in his debut season in 2016. Thanks. For a full look at the Braves' 2022 postseason schedule, click here. Most of his miscalculations are trigger happy overreactions to common slumps and overvaluing prime players, because he doesnt realize the extra value hes trying to quantify is the consistency they bring in being a star player.
MLB Salary for Spencer Strider - Atlanta - USA TODAY Databases Data Provided By Spencer Strider has played for 1 team, the Atlanta Braves. He hasnt proven he can hit or play competent Ml defense. Luckily for . The only way he wouldnt is with a long demotion next year. Obviously Strider is going to take the guaranteed money because that takes care of his family for generations. Its a shame he doesnt pitch for the Mets. Do you have a sports website? 2025: $9-10M They cant keep getting away with robbery forever. Doubt the Sox are much happier w/Story, but Red Sox fans would know much more about that than I do. Jared Shuster, LHP 4. If you add those up, you get $77M. Id hate to be him if he becomes human in Atlanta over the next 6 years. Hey, do you think the Braves bite the bullet and pay Swanson? The Braves dont seem to pay for peak seasons from post-prime age players, especially not at SS, which is about the easiest position to put a cheap, 2 WAR floor under, given fielding peaks in players early 20s. So $74.75 million for the pre-arb and 4 arb years + $72 million for the FA years = $146.75 million. To be fair, the Apple games are absolutely free for anyone to watch and with no blackouts, so thats not one of the bad deals. Its not playing victim. Swanson is probably walking. Really only has 6 seasons in the ML. Good thing Shane Spencer wasnt on the Braves for 2 months this season, they wouldve given him $100m. Strider was 11-5 with a 2.67 ERA in 31 games this season. If the right billionaire acquired them and they signed say Judge, Trea and Arenado, this would be one truly awesome team and their payroll would still be less than several other teams. This year they got a weak season from Acuna, and they won 101 games and the division. J.R. Ritchie, RHP 3. The reality is you should get a 20% discount on the overall value of what they project at today. Reading through this thread I think most people are missing a huge point. I do think its a little harder in Boston/New York because success there translates to big dollars everywhere. Corbin Burnes is entering his 5th full season and 2nd pass through arbitration, which is only projected to pay him $11.3M. And guess what? Born: So say he has an impingement, needs surgery, and turns into a 4 ERA SP who goes 120 innings a yearabout the worst case for a dominant 23 year old. If not for an extension, Strider would have made the league minimum in 2023 and 2024, been Arb 1 eligible in 2025, Arb 2 eligible in 2026, Arb 3 eligible in 2027 and a free agent after 2027. He easily would have been a Super 2 as well. THIRD BASE Nolan Arenado, 3B, STL. Shane Spencer didnt have elite closer K numbers as a starting pitcher. This is irrelevant, this is such a stupid overpay. Edwin Diaz, NYM. Thats 65m, plus his first 3 years. The Braves have extended yet another key member of their impressive young core, this time announcing a six-year, $75MM contract for right-hander Spencer Strider. Next up resign Dansby. The only thing accurate is the potentially, saved, and money. 4th year $30+ MM Very much doubt it. And Fried is the one you need to worry about locking up. In 2023, Strider will earn a base salary of $1,000,000, while carrying a total salary of $1,000,000. .
Spencer Strider: Strikeouts| Record| Draft| Salary| Draft Why would Swanson get Story or Baez money? So $250M from a team in Texas is worth $175M, while the offer from the Yankees or Mets for $250M is worth only $150M due to the tax difference. Around $150 million for those 7 seasons. Time on the injured list doesnt cut into a players service time, neither does short-term bereavement, COVID, or concussion protocols! Pitching may be the most volatile position of any sport. And no, he does not get credited with two years of service time for this year because he spent the whole year on the major league roster AND was a ROY finalist. So by the time hes done, the new 0-3 money will end up going in large part to him, Raleigh, Strider, Harris II, and Rutschman. Thought I was being clear there C Yards. Adding that extra year of service time will make him eligible. By 9:30 a.m. The Braves completed a remarkable late-season rally to capture the top spot in the NL East for the fifth straight season. With that being said, I agree with Atlantas approach here overall but there is still a fair amount of risk involved when extending young players so early in their careers. This is a big market spending club unfortunately, And Clayton Kershaw was going to sign with the Rangers cuz hes a local guy. $25M (2027) Hell outspend the Dodgers on infrastructure and payroll on his way to becoming the 3rd superteam in the NL. Spencer Strider is currently the starting pitcher position for the Atlanta Braves in Major League Baseball, the senior baseball league of the United States. From the official MLB site: To qualify for the Super Two designation, players must rank in the top 22 percent, in terms of service time, among those who have amassed between two and three years in the Majors.
Braves: Spencer Strider - The Vegan Mustache Man - SportsTalkATL.com Find out more. $1M (2023) Generally not a fan of BTVs valuations, and your comment that the site is a general reference for trade values followed by They are off on a lot of things is a solid reason why I believe the site shouldnt be used as a factual source. Many thanks to him. Not going to roast you on Sewmake, Mercenary, but imo theres no possibility of him being considered as a viable replacement for Swanson. Click on the different category headings to find out more and change our default settings. He also became the first MLB pitcher to record 200 strikeouts and allow fewer than 100 hits. Swanson 11.2 WAR. The Atlanta Braves announced they agreed to terms with rookie sensation Spencer Strider on a 6-year deal worth $75 million on Monday morning. I wouldnt just throw around $140M in proven assets for $140M in prospects. Thats $75M gone off the top, bringing their net total to $175M.If that same deal gets signed in New York, you can take extra $25M off. The next time you attempt to impersonate a teacher, use of correct grammar and word definition might lessen your chance of being subjected to ridicule and the embarrassing eyerolls from those subjected to your pompous bloviations. Almost everyone gave up on the Braves when they were 10.5 games back in the NL East. I mean this in total sincerity, if you love this deal, you should never manage a real team, let alone budget your own finances personally. I was down there for that last Mets series and all I heard was silence from the Mets fan base Sunday night. It would also be easier to negotiate more free agent years into the deal while still getting a significant discount on them. Pads Fans spends 5 hours a day commenting from multiple accounts and STILL doesnt know how Super Two works. The Silver Strider is a nickname for Spencer Strider. On the other hand, a subscription to Apple TV+ is remarkably cheap, comparatively: $4.99 a month or $49.99 a year. 2nd year $14.75 mm, Exceeded rookie limits during 2022 season, 2023 Contract Status: He might not be worth what hes asking. I think that $40M is more like $45M, So they paid him a bonus of $25M in order to obtain a 1+1 extension for $22M + $22M, with a $5M buyout. This is the first season that he has looked really good and stayed healthy. The Braves are collecting talent at bargain prices, while the Marlins are paying too much for Avi Garcia and Jorge Soler, The Mets will pay a ton for for Brandon Sir Only Walks And Nothing Else Nimmo, the Phillies are paying a fortune to Harper who is the Carmelo Anthony of baseball (OK, but much better), and the Nats can no longer get stars to sign with them. The only other way to get that channel is to splurge on the ridiculously overpriced cable providers with their ever-escalating fees. Ill I know is Harvey dominated in playoffs and Strider just got lit up. I believe 2027 is the final year of that infamous TV deal that hasnt been the cash cow many other lesser franchises have benefitted from. I think its going to bite them in a few years, when they realize the quality of the product is declining. In a time in baseball when contact is of the least importance and shifts were used at an all-time high, why players refused to adjust to defensive alignments. The only IF is whether hell stay healthy and productive enough to earn the money. They signed scherzer only to make a run this and set an example for winning and pitching which he did.
Spencer Strider - MLB News, Rumors, & Updates | FOX Sports Hes top ten talent. He played college baseball for the Clemson Tigers, and was drafted by the Atlanta Braves in the fourth round of the 2020 Major League Baseball Draft. Nothing like leaning $15M/year against the cap instead of $1M by rushing to make a long-term deal with almost no chance of it showing positive value! I have faith in you to sign you right now. I cannot wait for the Braves/Phillies series to start in a few hours. Anyone who can sign up to a website and verify a second factor of authorization can do it. My point was that Soto would be worth at best $140M in excess value, he tried justifying the $200M by saying it was the premium for trading for a star. Most of the professional commentators (fwiw) picked the Braves on the basis that the Mets had yet to unthrone the kings. Same is true for Strider, this deal doesnt include or exclude those pre-arb bonuses. That kind of evaluation has gotten the Tigers and Red Sox stuck w/those two. Google elude. It will leave many teams overpaying for pitching and when those arms get injured, most teams will selloff because they wont be able to go to the well and sign another $30M free agent to replace their ace who is gone for 18 months while recovering from surgery. . He will receive an extra year of service time for that. $10M (2025) Now the baseball world is looking forward to what he could do while serving as a starter over an entire season.
Braves: Spencer Strider made MLB history with easy 102.4 mph fastball Spencer Strider - Clemson Tigers Official Athletics Site All of their young core is locked up and are going to be WS threats for the next 7-8 years. Please login to leave a reply. He is Strider. Even if he does remain this good in a best case scenario, he would only approach the amount hes being guaranteed over those 2 pre-arb years and 3 arb years, and the team should get a significant discount on those arb years in such an early career extension, anyway. Braden Shewmake, SS 13. (101-61, 1st place in NL East). Thats the reverse logic he was trying to calculate for, but that doesnt make sense! The sum he agreed to when being selected by MLB teams has not been made public.
Strider has an 77% chance of avoiding it. Lengthy extensions to position players I get. The Atlanta Braves have placed right-hander Spencer Strider on the 15-day injured list with a strained left oblique muscle. $20M (2027) If you swap those times it would be a 1pm local start in LA, at least this way its a 4pm local start in ATL.